Ep 38 - July 16, 2025 - GENIUS Act drama
Topics covered in this episode:
- Grayscale starts IPO process
- Vanguard in crypto?
- GENIUS Act voting drama
- Executive Order: 401ks could access private markets
- Banks are now allowed to custody crypto
- Visa launching their own crypto network
- Big banks issuing stablecoins
- Dubai land deeds
Creators and Guests

Host
Andres Sandate
Husband, 3x Dad, Latinx, SpecFin, FinTech, Private Credit, ATLalts Pod Host, SEAFA Pres., Ball Coach, Kansas Jayhawk, Raised in Newton, KS, Reside in Smyrna, GA

Host
Robert Swarthout
GP focused on commercial use case cryptocurrencies. #XRPL dUNL validator operator, Founder/CEO at @tetoncryptocap, Co-founded @ShootProof, formerly @yahoo
